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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13A critique of claims coming from Oppenheimer's previous book The Origins of the British - A Genetic Detective Story
http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/features/relax-were-all-...yway/
Patrick Pearse had an English father. Eamon de Valera had a Cuban-American father. Sean Lemass had Norman ancestry, as did Garret FitzGerald. Some Galwegians have Arab=Hispanic ancestry, according to cineaste Bob Quinn. The celtic thing has been exaggerated. Three cheers for our genetic Irish stew.
A few years ago, I took part in a genetic survey when I was studying at Uni (This was 2006, for anyone interested.) In short, my surname in English could lend itself to Viking or Norman origins, possibly as a result of later English/Anglo Saxon settlement in Ireland. This is what I supposed the result would show. Not so-about a year later, I received my reply. Specifically, the test had been done to attempt to trace the impact of Viking settlement in Ireland (Even today there are roughly twice as many people with 'Viking' ancestry in the North of England than in the South (The old 'Danelaw'). Not so here, apparantly, the study showed that in Ireland, even with all the invasion, emigration, immigration, settlement and resettlement, the gentic stock remained fairly homogenous, on a par with the people of the Basque region. People stuck with their own, and only ever integrated, if at all, in dribs and drabs in isolated areas. Which, assuming that survey had any validity (It was a cheek smear, and my mouth was full of ginger cake at the time.), is tragic for two reasons. 1. We really should have interbred a more, helps keep the bloodstock strong. 2.This survey was conducted in the North, with little to no difference between the two elephants in the room.
the geneticists have even established that the neanderthals and sapiens crossed into each others haystacks..vive la difference...I blame the wimmin...they were ever aysey..
Surnames are useless for genetic studies.
Your genes are half your mother's.
The female surname is discarded almost always.
If you trace your surname back about 16 generations you have only about one gene left from the male ancestor you are named after.
We have about 30,000 genes.
How many times can you divide that number by 2 ?
Simple maths!
A small point.
You can reverse the maths.
If you have enough documentation you can go backwards through the maze of thousands of cousins to find a millionth removed ancestor.
(Especially in America, which is a mixing bowl.)
That is why Barak Obama drank a pint with his relatives in Ireland.
No
the reason Barack Obama drank a pint was just corporate free advertising for a product whose effect is to help keep us all stupid and thinking "shure being drunk is grate and guinness=Ireland"
fuck that shit. Being Irish is nothing to do with consuming some product that is helping to destroy the fabric of our society whilst making some fatcats rich. Some fatcats, by the way, whose base of operations is no longer in Ireland. Guinness is a foreign company now.
Fuck Guinness and Fuck Obama. Both their colours on the surface may be black but both their souls are white and corporate and owned by the devil!
We all know Obama drinking the pint was a polical stunt.
But:
Obama REALLY was drinking a pint with long lost cousins from the melting pot of America.
That red glow under the melting pot is the Native Americans' holocaust fueling the fire. Buffalo Soldiers like Obambi stoke it still.
You are Right there Opus.
If Obama was REALLY Irish he would have staggered out of the pub after 10 pints of Guinness.
His wife would have hit him with her handbag and said:
"You have become more Irish than the Irish themselves."
..while we have your mathematical skills at hand, can I ask you to cast an eye over this little piece of assessment of the numerological shennanigans of the social-darwinian dog-eat-dog gig gone loco-motional and get you to stir in a summing as to where the figures might be off...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29388
should be as easy as sudoku for someone of your capacity.
I wont go away until I get your advice. Promise.
Anybody who enjoys a pint of Guinness is automatically a total genius.
Ask Barak Obama.
..you're either with US or a Guinness...where's your homework, wiseguy; you wont grow up to be an adult if you dont do your sums.