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Jump To Comment: 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1It is urgent for the fact that there is a left alternative vision of europe to get out into public view. There is are thousands of people including a lot of young people who are talking about Lisbon and open to this debate. I hope your meeting goes well, but can you also get some press releases out there, sit on RTE for a few minutes coverage and hit the boards? The right wing are dominating the discussion at the moment.
Why don't you publish details of these meetings more widely ? You can do it on www.politics.ie and on machine nation you don't have to log into the Europe forum as it's open to guests.
http://machinenation.forumakers.com/the-open-europe-for...-f30/
It would be disappointing if this impetus was lost now. Cowen and Co. will have to go to Brussels or Strasbourg in October with some ideas and it would be well if there was a message from the Left...
Don' t know, and very much doubt, if the pessimistic and despairing Eddie above is the same Eddie who worked so hard in the NO campaign, who chaired Trade Union meetings, who did his best to promote our left wing and progressive NO position.
Me's message above I wholeheartedly agree with....we have an opportunity - we have a few weeks ahead when the Right is in shock and shambles....where they will blame each other, attempt to distance themselves from their continuous fuck-ups. This is a time-delimited situation and come September/October they will start planning again.
We should use this opportunity, this chink whence light comes in (to quote Leonard Cohen) and talk to each other - see what's possible. By starting tonight in Wynns Hotel where Joe Higgins is having his gig. Then next Saturday at 11.00 in the Teachers Club where the CAEUC will have its first post-victory get together. Let us not repeat the French mistake of the Left where they sat in their laurels after their NO in 2005 and gave Sarkozy time to regroup and get on top.
I can see where Eddie (whoever he may turn out to be) is coming from but I very much hope for all of us that we can prove him wrong.
What comes to mind is an old adage of an Italian comrade: "There is lots of confusion out there, the situation is, therefore, excellent"!!
That's right eddie we should all throw our hands in the air and with a cynical sigh, join People Before Profit.
The 'splinters' that you dismiss have been the backbone of most progressive campaigns in this country since the 1960s. And whether left unity is an illusion or not, at least those seeking it are looking for constructive ways of working together. Some of us prefer not to wallow in despair.
I yawn when I read that after the successful campaigning against the Lisbon Treaty we are going to witness a surge in "further programmatic and political unity". We're going to see no such thing alas. Anybody visiting the threads of indymedia in the past few months will realize that the splinter groups kept pushing their 'lines' and their brand names throughout the campaigning. They're all wary of each other - deep entry and all that. They will push their own candidates in next year's local elections and get some hardworking candidates elected - good for them. Left unity seems like an oxymoron. One other illusion floating around is that the treaty rejection heralds a new left wing dawn. Nothing of the sort. Come the next general election and voters will huddle around the 80% bien pensant cluster of FF-FG candidates, with maybe a small percentage surge towards independents.
What group is the CAEUC.iawm? Are they new?
With activists like u sunshine who needs the YES cabal? Consult the minutes of the meetings you obviously missed and quit being personal and divisive.
Who made Michael Youlton 'National Coordinator' of CAEUC??? I remember no such decision. Is this for real?
As far as I know, Youlton just staffs the office and answers the phones. This 'National Coordinator' thing is a label he's attached to himself. He's nothing of the sort!
The NO side won a comprehensive victory of 53.4% against 46.6% of the 1,621,037 people who voted in last Thursday’s Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty (participation was 53.1% - twice as high as those who voted in the first Nice Referendum).From the 43 constituencies nationally 33 voted NO!! And as an ex-Irish PM lamented: “The result was very class divided….the NO vote was strongest, up to 65% in working class areas…” Our victory came in the face of a NO side, made up by a variety of small left wing organisations, a couple of Trade Unions and Sinn Fein, having to confront the entire political establishment [all four major Parties: Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Labour and the Parliamentary Party of the Greens], every conceivable employer organisation, the Catholic Church establishment, the powerful Alliance for Europe and 95% of the media.
There were 3 main reasons for the NO victory:
The utter contempt shown by the YES side towards the public by refusing to distribute the Treaty to households (“it’s too complicated – people wouldn’t understand”), by refusing to debate the contents of the Treaty and relying instead on ideological subterfuges (“Europe has been good to us – it’s our turn to be good to Europe”, “lets be in the heart of Europe”), etc.
The potency of the three main arguments put forward by our NO campaign: (1) our people's desire to remain neutral and the threat of galloping militarisation; (2) fear of the effect of the Treaty's free market/undistorted competition focus on the future of public services, particularly health and education; (3) the perceived threat against workers rights following the recent decisions by the ECJ (Laval, Viking and Ruffert).
The general impact of the arguments put forward re: the democratic deficit, the loss of the Commissioner and the decrease in the already small voting power of Ireland in the Commission and the European Parliament
The left/progressive element of the NO campaign has been working diligently since mid-November 2007. Our Campaign is an umbrella grouping of affiliated organisations that had reached 15 by mid-May ’08. While some of the affiliates conducted their own autonomous campaign, there was tight internal cohesion in the Campaign website [www.sayno.ie], the Campaign literature, our meetings all over the country and the Press Releases and
statements.
My own personal evaluation of the Campaign, as a National Co-ordinator over the final 10 weeks, is that it has worked exceptionally well and may set the basis for further programmatic and political unity among most if not all the affiliates.
It is to be noted that the extensive political work of our Campaign, our 10,000 32 pp pamphlets, our more than 600,000 leaflets, our door-to-door canvassing, the 60 or so country-wide meetings were largely ignored by the mainstream media. It was only on Saturday June 14th that the Irish Times published for the first time sections of our victory Press Release. The Irish media were largely on the YES side while some dissent was shown by the UK owned smaller publications.
What does the future hold for us? Where do we go from here?
As these lines are being written, a mere 48 hours after our NO victory, we are already confronted by a political scenario operating on two distinct, parallel and potentially conflicting lines. One the hand, we are living in a domain of enthusiasm, of celebration of the popular forces – so rare in Ireland – and a wave of support and congratulations flowing at us from all over Europe, particularly France, Germany, Austria and Greece. This is no dreamland and there is no Alice who doesn’t live here anymore.
On the opposite plane, there is the anguish, the dejection, the incomprehension of what exactly happened shown by the political elites. At home, the main political parties are blaming each other for not doing enough while the pro-YES media are jeering at them for managing the extraordinary trick of making the YES sound anything but positive.
In Europe, as Irish Foreign Affairs Minister Martin is going to Brussels on Monday and the Prime Minister (Taoiseach) Cowen is readying himself to go to Brussels and explain himself on Wednesday, the mood is in crisis mode. Brussels, Paris, Berlin and :London are said to be in shock while the London Financial Times headlined: “Irish poll delivers big blow to EU morale”!!
It is far too early to speculate what medicine the Eurocrats may prescribe to ease their pain, what machinations and scenarios may develop. We will have some time to come back to this as we ourselves sit down and start discussing our next moves. There are a few things though that can be said as a conclusion to this article. Our political traditions in Ireland come from the Enlightenment of the 18th century, of the republicanism of the American revolution against the British, our republicanism in the colonial struggle over the last 150 years, the internationalist socialism of Larkin and Connolly and Constance Markievicz .
We believe that democracy is one of the best ever ideas and realities developed in Europe and we are telling Brussels to respect it. France voted NO, the Netherlands voted NO and now we have voted NO!! Respect the democratic spirit of our people, start defining Europe, our Europe, not merely as a paradise for industrial, military and financial multinationals and, instead, think about workers rights, the environment and an end to military aggression. Think of the messages the democratic process is bringing to your doorstep.
Our wish is for a democratic, demilitarised and social Europe.
We are waiting impatiently for your response.
Michael Youlton – National Co-ordinator of the NO Campaign (CAEUC)
Dublin June 15th
PS The CAEUC and its affiliate organisations are having a full meeting on Saturday June 21st at 11.00 in the Teachers Club. All activists welcome
We're three steps ahead of you there. Watch this space.
Real left unity and solidarity with left forces on the continent are essential if we are to get anywhere.
In the week that is in it, discussion with other european socialists on how to push forward a new socialist agenda for Europe would be a good step.
Contribution which anonymous giving out on Indymedia can make to building a new left = zero
Why not a democratic, demilitarised SOCIALIST europe? Why the soft-left, reformist slogan? No problem with Cauec etc using it, but ye caim to be socialist revolutionaries, no?