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Freemasonry & Article 34.5.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann

category national | crime and justice | opinion/analysis author Saturday September 16, 2006 12:24author by W. Finnerty. Report this post to the editors

Is it possible to easily (and lawfully) find out if a particular person is a Freemason?

I realise it is possible to simply ask them; but, would this be permitted in a court room I wonder?

This point seems particularly important to me with regard to judges in the Republic of Ireland, who, under the terms of Bunreacht na hEireann (The Constitution of Ireland), have to take an oath requiring them to uphold the written Constitution of the Republic of Ireland.

Article 34.5.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann reads as follows:

"Every person appointed a judge under this Constitution shall make and subscribe the following declaration:

'In the presence of Almighty God I, --------- --------- , do solemnly and sincerely promise and declare that I will duly and faithfully and to the best of my knowledge and power execute the office of Chief Justice (or as the case may be) without fear or favour, affection or ill-will towards any man, and that I will uphold the Constitution and the laws. May God direct and sustain me.'

It is my understanding, and I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong, that Freemasons are required to take an oath which obliges them to uphold the principles of Freemasonry?

As reports I have read strongly suggest that the two sets of principles involved may well be completely incompatible in a number of very important respects, it seems to me that anybody appearing before a judge in the Republic of Ireland jurisdiction would, in the interests of justice, at the very least have a right to know whether or not the presiding judge is a Freemason?

I wonder what other people think regarding this particular point?

The full text of Bunreacht na hEireann can be viewed via the following link:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Bunreacht+na+h...earch

Information on oaths allegedly taken by Freemasons can be viewed via:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Freemasonry%2C+Oath&btnG...earch

Related Link: http://www.europeancourtofhumanrightswilliamfinnerty.com/

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   A view from the Vatican     Observer    Sat Sep 16, 2006 13:12 
   right to know     Gaz B -(A)-    Sat Sep 16, 2006 14:45 
   President George W. Bush     Fishmonger    Sat Sep 16, 2006 15:50 
   Victims of Legal Professions Society     liam mac consaidin    Sat Sep 16, 2006 17:27 
   President George W. Bush reply     pseudonym    Sat Sep 16, 2006 23:41 
   A persons religion (or lack of) is surely their own business     Mike    Sun Sep 17, 2006 00:01 
   Et tu, Tony?     Born Again Ejit    Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:54 
   Don't believe all you read     Welshman    Sun Sep 17, 2006 14:05 
   extra link     Welshman    Sun Sep 17, 2006 14:14 
 10   An Old Order of the Ages is born anew.     Jacques De Molay    Sun Sep 17, 2006 14:20 
 11   EU Treaties Procured By Payola Corruption     M3 Watcher    Sun Sep 17, 2006 20:19 
 12   Welshman     ...    Sun Sep 17, 2006 23:35 
 13   Don't believe all you read     Welshman    Mon Sep 18, 2006 09:37 
 14   Secrets     Welshman    Mon Sep 18, 2006 09:49 
 15   Welshman     Mandy    Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:19 
 16   Don't believe all you read     Welshman    Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:42 
 17   Freemasonry is no more threatening than other social groups     Dave    Mon Sep 18, 2006 14:53 
 18   All that glistens is not gold ...     Mandy    Mon Sep 18, 2006 15:18 
 19   JFK was a mason     Cruton    Mon Sep 18, 2006 15:38 
 20   All that glisters is not gold     Welshman    Mon Sep 18, 2006 17:17 
 21   "Unsubstantiated gossip"     Mandy    Mon Sep 18, 2006 20:48 
 22   All that glisters is not gold     Welshman    Mon Sep 18, 2006 21:16 
 23   Unsubstantiated gossip     Welshman    Mon Sep 18, 2006 21:31 
 24   Why be a Freemason?     Nick    Tue Sep 19, 2006 03:12 
 25   Why be a Freemason?     Welshman    Tue Sep 19, 2006 09:31 
 26   Women excluded?     Rose of Tralee    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:04 
 27   Women excluded?     Welshman    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:29 
 28   Second question for Welshman     Rose of Tralee    Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:53 
 29   Women excluded?     Welshman    Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:17 
 30   Freemasonry     number 6    Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:37 
 31   Freemasonry     Welshman    Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:03 
 32   To the Welsh Mason     number 6    Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:19 
 33   P2 Masonic Lodge     Flynn    Tue Sep 19, 2006 14:42 
 34   The Bilderberg     Vercingetorix    Tue Sep 19, 2006 14:43 
 35   Rossport 5 connection?     Seamuseen    Tue Sep 19, 2006 18:46 
 36   Justice Minister McDowell - shy but willing?     Rose of Tralee    Tue Sep 19, 2006 20:27 
 37   Ehhh.....     Spinning Quickly    Tue Sep 19, 2006 21:28 
 38   Freemasonry in Law enforcement in Britain     Seán Ryan    Tue Sep 19, 2006 23:49 
 39   The Masons     number 6    Tue Sep 19, 2006 23:58 
 40   Masonic Parliament in Molesworth St.     Seán Ryan    Wed Sep 20, 2006 00:32 
 41   I no understand     Luigi Corleone    Wed Sep 20, 2006 01:11 
 42   umm...number 6?     the digger    Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:00 
 43   Bilderberg or Bunreacht?     W. Finnerty.    Thu Sep 21, 2006 09:31 
 44   GRECO     W. Finnerty.    Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:09 
 45   Oh fer gawd's sake!     Ascalon    Mon Nov 27, 2006 15:35 
 46   Finnerty     number 6    Tue Nov 28, 2006 00:13 
 47   “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it...     Comeuppance Required    Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:13 
 48   Have we been 'Triangoed'     Celtic Warrior    Tue Nov 28, 2006 13:11 


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