Death of Chechen Leader

by Righteous pragmatist Thu Jun 22, 2006 16:36

I find it truly bizarre that a group who would call themselves Irish revolutionary republican freedom fighters would ally themselves with Chechen Islamic fundementalist fanatics.

I presume that the goal of the 32 county sovereignty committee is a 32 country Marxist state?

I think your crazy especially after blowing up 29 people at Omagh in 1998 to think you have any hope of succeeding but I think you are really gone over the edge by allying yourselves with religious fanatics who blow up stifling school gymnasiums full of naked children or gun them down as they flee in terror.

This "Chechen President" was a baby killing throat slashing murdering bombing Islamic fanatic nutjob.

If you find common cause with sociopaths like these then how the hell do you expect the people of Ireland to accept that you can govern a unified 32 country Irish republic?

by By Any Means Necessary Thu Jun 22, 2006 17:34

Your post is hypocritical. Have a look at the history of the Chechen resistance and you will see that the 32 CSM ( as an organisation dedicated to ending British imperialism in Ireland ) should be in solidarity to these resistance fighters.

When you have researched the plight of the Chechen people, you yourself might see how the use of Islamophobia has reduced any person or organisation who opposes imperialism a "nutter" or a "terrorist".

These people are fighting for the rights that you take for granted and the freedoms that you were given through the sweat and blood of others.

However your post reeks of right wing ignorance, both of an organisation ( which I am not a member of ) and an colonial situation, which the west has ignored ( because the USA and the UK need Russian support for its war against terror ).

The Chechens have suffered national and human rights abuses, from Russain state forces who have been given free reign to suppress the national liberation struggle.

I assume that your post means that you are a supporter of the Russian governments policy in this region ?

by Barry - 32csm Thu Jun 22, 2006 18:32

Firstly the 32csms goal is not a marxist state nor is it our intention to try and take power , our constitution states 32csm must dissolve itself once Irish sovereignty has been acheived . Nor is 32csm even a political party . The 32csm did not blow up anyone , whether in Omagh or anywere else .

One presumes you are a supporter of the baby killers of Haditha and the sexual perverts and degenerates of Abu Greib and elsewhere . Your insults directed against ourselves and the chechen people are therefore of little consequence while your ignorance is quite apparent and most likely wilful.

by By Any Means Necessary Thu Jun 22, 2006 20:21

Mother Russia was protected from the fascist filth by Chechens during the Great Patriotic War. As an ethnic minority they and the Kamluks recieved the Order of the Red Banner in higher ratio than their Russian brothers fighting in the Red Army. When Russian army conscripts were being taken prisoner in Grozny, they were astonished to find Red army battle standards in the Chechen positions.

Mother Russia died when they sold their souls for a place on the G8.

The war against the Russian invaision is a war of national liberation, not an Islamic war. Yet again the Islamaphobic rhetoric comes from the depth of ignorance..by the way when you harp on about child killers are you including the British / US / Isreali armed forces who daily destroy young lives..or is your righteous ignorance just another sad reflection on your sad sectarian politics?

by Mr. T. Mon Jun 26, 2006 15:53

It is fascinating to read the self-described republican nationalists take on "Russian" history, especially the mourning for "Mother Russia". Read a couple of non-Soviet books on the topic and you'll quickly find that "Mother Russia" was herself a savage murderous imperial oppressor for several centuries. The crimes of the British empire pale to insignificance in comparison to what Russia has done to her colonial subjects throughout the centuries, especially the 80 horribly brutal soviet years. The Chechen-Ingush were first oppressed by goons controlled by inbred czars, later by the wild eyed bloodthirsty psychotic Bolsheviks and stalinists, and now the present re-branded KGB led russian nationalists.

Another nonsense in the previous post was that during the second great war, the Chenchen-Ingush people fought valiantly against the Nazis. The truth is that they fought equally valiantly against both the invading Nazi's as well as their historical oppressors in the Red Army. For this the soviets slaughtered them by the tens of thousands and forcibly exiled them throughout the soviet empire.

As a reaction to the current KGB controlled Russian nationalist occupation of Chechnia, in desperation the formerly proud and savagely oppressed Chechen-Ingush people have sold their souls and relinquished what was left of their sanity to fight the post-soviet dictators by soliciting funding and support from the ragged bearded psychotics of the jihad brigade. The Chechen-Ingush were not historically fanatical islamists but they have been driven to it recently by oppressive Russian and Soviet imperialist policies. I sympathise with the chechens but their present leadership's islamist tactics have made them an international pariah - an enemy of freedom - and thus I cannot support their present efforts. But I certainly do support a democratic Chechnia free of russian colonial oppression. Hopefully some day the Chechnians will get rid of both the russians as well as the jihadis and live a peaceful existance.